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Performance Modification time!
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: Rick Sample
It's that time of the year again where I make a list of stuff that I need to purchase over the winter. I'm looking to purchase small power adder parts that will give me a little more HP and/or Torque. Not anything that gains power dramatically. Would prefer bolt ons that I can do in our garage.
Current Engine Modifications:
Dual Flowmaster Exhaust
BBK Cold Air Intake
Ford Racing spark plug wires
Posted by: Mustang5L5
gears
Posted by: kissajew86
gears are a little difficult to do in the garage, i have done it, however it is difficult.
ud pullies give about the same boost, maybe a little less but are a lot easier to install.
Posted by: Mustang5L5
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Originally Posted by kissajew86
ud pullies give about the same boost, maybe a little less but are a lot easier to install.
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Having installed both....pullies are nowhere near as good in terms of improvement as a set of gears.
I would suggest a t-lok at the same time if he were to do some gears
Posted by: badass98svt
I'm with Mike on this one. Gears are a HUGE improvement over stock gears. Pulleys are barely felt with the SOTP meter.
Posted by: Rick Sample
What all will gears do for the car anyhow and how much do a set usually cost?
Posted by: badass98svt
gears cost roughly $200 plus install kit($80) plus install of the gears, which is another $200 or so.
Gears will make your car accelerate A LOT quicker.
Posted by: MCRPARTS
Rick,
Pulleys are a waste of time. Do gears, a throttle body, a bigger intake or save up for a Vortech
Posted by: badass98svt
Pulleys on a v6 will give a little gain, just nothing like a set of gears will do.
Posted by: Rick Sample
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Originally Posted by badass98svt
gears cost roughly $200 plus install kit($80) plus install of the gears, which is another $200 or so.
Gears will make your car accelerate A LOT quicker. |
Which brand would you go with for a '95 V6?
Posted by: Xerxeese
split port swap....
Posted by: badass98svt
The only clear choice is Ford Racing for the gears. Summit sells an excellent rebuild kit for under $75 as well. It uses all Timken bearings.
Posted by: Rick Sample
Gears may have to come a while down the road only because I don't really know much about them. Do you think a BBK throttle body will improve performance any?
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| Available for all 1994 -2003 3.8L V-6 Mustang models - our world famous "Power-Plus Series" performance throttle bodies are now in stock for immediate delivery. Starting with a brand-new 356 aluminum body - these CNC - machinery units are good for 6-12 horsepower along with improved throttle response |
BBK Chrome Strut tower brace $169.00
Coolflex upper chrome radiator hose $130
Posted by: badass98svt
You don't need to know anything about gears. Just buy the gears and install kit and bring the car somewhere to have them installed. That's it.
You WON'T be dissapointed!
Posted by: Aussie XAXB
Think of riding your 15 speed bike in 12th gear. This is what your stock gear is like. Pretty hard to pull away from a stop. Now if you shift your bike into 5th gear it is a lot easier to accelerate from a stop. This is what putting a higher numerically, lower ratio gear in your axle does for you. It makes it easier for your car to accelerate from a stop. Easier acceleration equals faster acceleration. This also means higher RPM at highway cruising speed. Thank god for overdrive trannies.
Underdrive pulleys give the engine the same advantage by making it easier for the engine to turn the power steering pump, alternator, water pump, etc., but to a much lesser aefect. Typically on a V8 you are looking at a maximum of about 8 - 12 HP at peak, which means you might get about 9 HP at 5,000 RPM, and less than that at all lower RPM's, which equals about 4 HP in street driving. Underdrive pulleys main objective is to turn accessories at a more reasonable RPM on a high reving, high RPM cruising or road course car.
Steve
Posted by: Rick Sample
Ah I see... so basically gears will just let my car take off much faster than stock even though it's a V6. I've searched for gears on Summit Racings website and I'm not sure where to look and they are pretty much the only company I'll order from since we don't carry gears. Can anyone help with a link from Summits Site?
Posted by: Mustang5L5
If yotu do gears, you should also do a traction-lok rear axle. They do make them for the 7.5", but at the amount of money you spend, you are better off looking for a used 94-98 GT axle and swapping the 3.73's into that. It's stronger, and already comes with the t-lok plus you get quad shocks for controlling wheel hop.
Gears for 7.5" V6 axle
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch
Gears for 8.8 GT axle
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch
Like i said, if you do do gears, yo should do a t-lok as well otherwise you'll just light up the one passenger side tire all the time instead of hooking both tires and going.
Posted by: Rick Sample
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Originally Posted by Mustang5L5
If yotu do gears, you should also do a traction-lok rear axle. They do make them for the 7.5", but at the amount of money you spend, you are better off looking for a used 94-98 GT axle and swapping the 3.73's into that. It's stronger, and already comes with the t-lok plus you get quad shocks for controlling wheel hop.
Gears for 7.5" V6 axle http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch Gears for 8.8 GT axle http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch Like i said, if you do do gears, yo should do a t-lok as well otherwise you'll just light up the one passenger side tire all the time instead of hooking both tires and going. |
Posted by: Mustang5L5
Weird, links work fine for me. Just do a search for Ford Racing Ring and Pinion and that should direct you to the parts.
I would start off by searching for a 8.8 rear. You'll need one from a 94-98 car as the 99+ rears are 0.75" wider each side. That may or may not work for you. That year rear can come with either 2.73's, 3.08's or 3.27's stock, but you might be able to find one that's been upgraded. Ford even sells complete rear ends with gearsets but they are kinda pricey.
Posted by: Aussie XAXB
I don't know if they make gears for the 7.5 but Motive Gear has been making a good reputation for themselves and that is what I put in my wife's Mustang. It's quiet and hasn't failed yet under some hard acceleration from the stroker engine. The car doesn't have slicks though.
Right, without traction lok you won't have both wheels engaged, just the one. Auburn makes a great unit that they refer to with the GM name "Posi", but they make them for all makes. Again, this is what I put in my wife's Mustang. It came highly recommended by a racer friend of mine. They're not cheap though.
Steve
Posted by: Rick Sample
I may put it in the shop and have the gears done by the pros towards the end of next year. This winter I'll be just doing basic engine bolt ons.
Posted by: kissajew86
i still think UD pullies would be a good addition.....the hears will help you more than they helped me, since you have a pre99...and pre99 ud pullies are only like $80, compair that to 200 gears + 200 t-lock+100 install kit+500 install by mechanic.
99+ came with 3.27 gears, when i switched to 3.73 i wasnt too impressed, they helped yes, but not as much as everyone raves.....
going from a 2.73 like you have to a 3.73 should be a much better improvement....
also check into roller rockers.....i put mine in and i liked the added pull, i am not sure how the non split port engine will react to the added lift.......the split port likes it....they were about 250, and are much easier to bolt on than rear end gears.....
i honestly dont think a TB would help much, but i dont know a whole lot about the pre-99 engines...if you were p&p heads and intake i would say yes, but from what i understand the head is a MAJOR restriction in pre-99 engines not the TB.....adding lift to the valves with roller rockers at a 1.8 ratio vs the stock 1.73 would allow the engine to breath a little easier through those restrictive heads....
Posted by: Rick Sample
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Originally Posted by kissajew86
i still think UD pullies would be a good addition.....the hears will help you more than they helped me, since you have a pre99...and pre99 ud pullies are only like $80, compair that to 200 gears + 200 t-lock+100 install kit+500 install by mechanic.
99+ came with 3.27 gears, when i switched to 3.73 i wasnt too impressed, they helped yes, but not as much as everyone raves..... going from a 2.73 like you have to a 3.73 should be a much better improvement.... also check into roller rockers.....i put mine in and i liked the added pull, i am not sure how the non split port engine will react to the added lift.......the split port likes it....they were about 250, and are much easier to bolt on than rear end gears..... i honestly dont think a TB would help much, but i dont know a whole lot about the pre-99 engines...if you were p&p heads and intake i would say yes, but from what i understand the head is a MAJOR restriction in pre-99 engines not the TB.....adding lift to the valves with roller rockers at a 1.8 ratio vs the stock 1.73 would allow the engine to breath a little easier through those restrictive heads.... |
Posted by: Rick Sample
Well guys I think I'm putting the Mustang project on hold for just a little while. I'm getting the BBK chrome stut tower brace and chome radiator hose for christmas... after that I think I will take a break from modding for at least a year or two. I decided I need the money more in my bank so that I can save for my house a little faster.
Posted by: Xerxeese
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Originally Posted by Rick Sample
Well guys I think I'm putting the Mustang project on hold for just a little while. I'm getting the BBK chrome stut tower brace and chome radiator hose for christmas... after that I think I will take a break from modding for at least a year or two. I decided I need the money more in my bank so that I can save for my house a little faster.
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Posted by: Rick Sample
I opened up my car parts that I got for christmas and I'm very satisfied with them all! I think they will make a huge improvement!
Posted by: kissajew86
your not even gonna say what you got?
Posted by: Rick Sample
lol sorry abou that. I got the chrome BBK strut tower brace and a chrome upper radiator hose. Can't wait to put them on come spring!
Posted by: badass98svt
No gears yet?
Posted by: Rick Sample
lol nope... I'm going to have to leave those out.. after these modifications I'm pretty much finished unless I get stuff here and their for christmas. Have to save up for a house
Posted by: Rick Sample
Actually I might purchase a thing here or their this coming summer... but nothing that costs to much. Gears are definitely out of the question unfortunetly.
Posted by: badass98svt
Alrighty, but your thread in titled "Performance modification time!"
Those chrome pieces you got are definitely not performance oriented.
So, it's a good excuse to buy a couple more things.
Posted by: Rick Sample
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Originally Posted by badass98svt
So, it's a good excuse to buy a couple more things.
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Posted by: Rick Sample
A month or two before I can start installing these pieces! Can't wait!
Posted by: Xerxeese
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Originally Posted by Rick Sample
A month or two before I can start installing these pieces! Can't wait!
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Posted by: Rick Sample
lol my garage is unheated... way to cold to start this month lol
Posted by: kissajew86
yeah i gotta install the catted x pipes for my car and it has been way too cold for me lately
Posted by: Rick Sample
Winter will be over before we know it hopefully! It came late... so I hope it doesn't stay later!
Posted by: Rick Sample
Looks like it's going to start warming up in the 40's here in about 10 days! Modding is just around the corner!
Posted by: Jarhead46
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Looks like it's going to start warming up in the 40's here in about 10 days! Modding is just around the corner!
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Posted by: Rick Sample
Pretty nice upgrades!
Posted by: Rick Sample
I say I give it another 2-3 weeks then I'll be able to install my BBK STB and chrome radiator hose! Car shows in 3 months!
Posted by: Rick Sample
Do you guys think the yellow power steering reservoir tube is highly noticable? Don't have to much green to spend on my car this year... so I'm thinking about a few polished add-ons to nicely enhance the overall appearance. That polished cover would be around $45.00 with shipping.
Posted by: kissajew86
something you can do is start polishing all the aluminum parts, it really makes things look good, but it takes FOREVER......
Posted by: Rick Sample
Yep I know... tried the alternator and I gave up lol. I think this year I'm just going to purchase some chrome covers and next year I'm going to take all the aluminum off and pay to have it professionaly pollished.
Posted by: kissajew86
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Originally Posted by Rick Sample
Yep I know... tried the alternator and I gave up lol. I think this year I'm just going to purchase some chrome covers and next year I'm going to take all the aluminum off and pay to have it professionaly pollished.
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Posted by: Rick Sample
lol I just couldn't find any time to work on the alternator since I have work about 10-12 hours per day.
Posted by: langod
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Originally Posted by kissajew86
dont give up! tell me what you did to polish it and ill give ya some pointers....
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If you have some tips and pointers, just post em! Share the wealth -- don't keep us in the dark.....
Posted by: Rick Sample
Definitely! Any pointes for our viewers will be great! Even for me down the road when I might try to polish smaller engine pieces
Posted by: kissajew86
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Originally Posted by Rick Sample
Definitely! Any pointes for our viewers will be great! Even for me down the road when I might try to polish smaller engine pieces
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Posted by: Rick Sample
Awesome!!!
Posted by: kissajew86
i posted it in the apperance forum
http://www.mcrparts.com/forums/showt...003#post106003
Posted by: Rick Sample
Awesome! Thanks so much!
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