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Steering and Vibration
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Posted by: Noob55

When I turn the wheel in either direction, no matter how far, I hear a weird noise. It sounds kind of like old springs being stretched, but it turns fine with no other problems like resistance or anything. The other problem is a vibration that occasionally happens. You can feel it underneath your feet from either the passenger or driver side, and it happens probly at least once or twice every time I drive it. It isn't real bad, but bad enough that you can easily notice it without having it pointed out.

Posted by: Cody1774

have you found out what was causing these problems?

Posted by: Noob55

No, she is going in Monday to get my new tires mounted, so if I don't find out by then I will probly just have the dealership look at it. They are family friends, so I trust them.

Posted by: badass98svt

does the vibration only happen at a certain speed.

and as far as the noise goes, did you check your power steering fluid?
the noise could also be your ball joints. let me know if it is. I have a cheap/easy fix to cure the squeeking noise.

Posted by: Noob55

The vibration happens mostly at low speeds when I am lugging the engine, at about 1200 rpm or lower.
Power steering fluid is fine. I had a friend turn the wheel while I looked around near the tires, and it sounds just like a spring that needs oil. I am assuming something needs oil/grease, the noise comes from just behind the tire I think.

Posted by: Cody1774

Is there any side to side play in any of you wheels? If you can 'wiggle' your wheel and tire it may be a bearing gone.

Posted by: badass98svt

you need to grease the ball joints.

Posted by: Aussie XAXB

If you hear the noise when you are at or just about at the turning stop (the point at which your wheel won't turn any farther) that is due to excessive pump pressure and is normal. You just shouldn't turn your wheel to that point, that is too hard on the power steering. Just about every car will do this when you turn the wheel all the way to the stop. (The stop is actually a physical part on your suspension)

If you have a vibration that you feel in the floorboards at low speed only it is quite a peculiar one. If a belt in one of your tires has shifted or broken it will do this but you will also feel it at most other speeds too. It is not due to a tire being out of balance because that is typically not felt until you reach faster speeds.

You don't feel it in the steering wheel so there is no problem at the front tires.

Have you physically looked at your rear tires? See if you see a bulge or "S" shape in the tread area. Also have the shop just spin the tires on the car while it is on a lift to see if they see anything peculiar.

Good luck.

Steve

Posted by: Noob55

No, the noise isn't like the sound at the stop at all. That is more of a squeel, but my sound is more like old springs. It also starts when I move the wheel even a tiny bit, the tires dont even have to turn a noticeable amount. My tires were completely bald, but I just had new ones put on today. I will see if I still get the floorboard vibration. BTW, how many miles should I wait until my tires are completely broken in?

Posted by: badass98svt

i doubt the squeal and the vibration are related.
did you check your ball joints?

Posted by: bdass92

or could be outer tie rods making the noise & check your tranny mount might be loose or needs to be replaced.

Posted by: Noob55

No I don't think they are related, sorry if that's how I made it sound. I haven't had time to look anything yet, because I spend the whole day at work. (I get picked up, so I don't drive my car). This weekend I am going to Canada, so I probably won't have time to look into it until next weekend. Thanks for the help so far though.

Posted by: Aussie XAXB

Well, the sound could still be the power steering pump going bad or perhaps a problem with the rack and pinion. It's hard to tell without actually being there to hear it.

Did your front tires have any kind of wear pattern on them? That could be indicative of a particular suspension component.

Steve

Posted by: Noob55

My tires are brand new, less than 50 miles on them. The sound is almost exactly like a worn spring, but I don't know if there are any springs involved in turning the tires. If there are, my guess would be that they are worn or need oil.

Posted by: badass98svt

it's your ball joints

Posted by: Noob55

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Originally Posted by badass98svt

it's your ball joints

Ok when I get the time I will grease them up and let you know if it fixed it.

Posted by: badass98svt

they probaly don't have a grease fitting.
I'll give you a little tip... Go to your local parts store and get the needle attachment for your gease gun. Then just puncture the boot on the ball joint. Preferably in one of the flaps. Grease it up until it comes out the whole.

Posted by: Noob55

Ok, they are all greased up. The noise has gotten worse though, it didnt do a thing for it. I have noticed that the squeeking happens even as I am driving along, especially over bumps. Also, my car doesn't corner as well as it used to. Instead of gripping in a hard turn, the front end tends to slide more. This makes me think that my suspension is going. Would worn springs cause all of these problems?

Posted by: badass98svt

wow, I can't believe that didn't fix it.
I guess it could be a possibility that maybe your spring isolators are rotted out and the spring is touching metal instead of the rubber iso's

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

could be a sway bar link

Posted by: Aussie XAXB

For everything that goes wrong with a car there are at least 5 things that can cause it. Thus has been my experience.

To check the balljoints jack the car up by the lower control arm just enough to get the tire off the ground. The suspension needs to me loaded this way. Grab the bottom of the tire with one hand on the inside and one on the outside. Now jerk in and out while someone else watches the balljoint with a light on it. If they see it moving at all then it is worn out.

The sound could be from worn suspension bushings as well.

The spring isolators are a good idea to check as mentioned.

Springs don't need lubricating. There is nothing on them that moves and makes friction on itself.

Steve