This is the MCRParts.com archive. To get back to our main site, please follow this link: Ford Mustang3.8 mod list and dynos!(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: kissajew86 I was curious of who had a 3.8, your mods, what your fav mod is, and how much HP you dyno'ed if you have done it. here are mine 2002 3.8 mustang 207/215 cam 1.8 Harland Sharp Roller rockers home polished upper and lower Densecharger CAI 25% UDP true dual borla exaust steeda short shifter fordchip mail order tune 75 shot of NX express(when i feel like it) 3.73 gears and limited slip differential my last dyno was before teh mail order tune and the underdrive pullies. the cam with no tune really messed up my numbers. I made 181 rwhp and 210 lbs tq. i belive if i dynoed tosay i would make slightly over 200 rwhp my fav mod was a toss up between the 3.73 gears and the 1.8 hartland sharp RR. I think the glory of the cam was stolen by the Hartland sharp RR that i had installed 3 months before the cam Posted by: ExBamaGal Got a 3.8 here. Not many performance mods though Only Eibach Pro-kit springs and a MAC CAI. Never dyno'd...guess there'd be no point since I'm pretty much stock lol
Posted by: 97v6Silver you forgot your radio-active rimz... no dyno but i run 15.1 at 90 (havent been since gears) mods: ud pullies computer retuned x pipe ravin preformance mufflers cai p&p upper lower tb 3:73's tlok tokiko shocks 2" drop mac short throw shortend throttle cable (even with break pedal) few apperance & stereo things but ehh... favorite mod was prolly the shifter it feals so much betta Posted by: ExBamaGal Quote:
Posted by: Rick Sample Performance: Dual Flowmasters w/ stainless tips Interior: Sony Xplode Head Unit Factory Red/Black Combo Exterior: Cobra R SVO hood Erebuni Body-Kit Bullitt Rims Headlight Covers Yokahama low profile tires "Mustang" Windshield banner Runny pony on both sides of car "Muscle-Mustangs.com: side windshield decals Comming withing a few months or sooner Cervinis Stalker Spoiler: (Hopefully going to order that here in a few hours! and have it put on next week! Cobra-R front Bumper: (Comming January 2005!) Posted by: CODY2003 I don't have many performance mods. Just a CAI And 40 series exhaust 2 1/4 pipe. Unless you count the .4oz of weight I lost when I polished the intake.
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at least update the picture... so people won't mistake you for a walmart rycer yo
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I'll update the picture probably sometime this weekend. Got the new M-M decals on and a wax job.
Posted by: 97v6Silver pics pics? Posted by: ExBamaGal ...Haven't gotten them yet. It rained all weekend so I'm gonna get some probably Wensday (that's when I'm off next). I promise I'll post them
Posted by: kissajew86 no one else wants to contribute their info? Posted by: kmonie360 Mach1 wheels, Mach1 Chin Spoiler, Painted Calipers, Dual Exhausts, Cold Air Intake, Push Button Starter, Custom Swiches (Fogs, accent lights), 10" sub, 200watt amp, Pioneer head unit, Spoiler Moved back 3", Custom mesh grill with pony, Fogs, Red under dash lights, Short Antena, Lower Wipers, Fastback C-pillars, and NX WET KIT In the mail: GT Side scoops, OEM fogs, Posted by: GT-EATER Here's a list of most of them Posted by: Just_A_Neon I'm from 3.8mustang.com
Posted by: kmonie360 I'm making this one a sticky. Sorry if i deleted your post. Just want to have posts about ur mods! Posted by: Moose9648 PERFORMANCE MODS: CAI, 70mm TB,Modified Ported upper and lower intakes, 25% UDP, SCT Chip, 4.10S with TLOK, Borla Dual Exhaust, 208/208 CAM, Ported Heads milled at .030, Long Tubes with H Pipe.1.73 Adj RRs,80mm MAF, 17x9 03 Cobra Rims INTERIOR MODS: Customized Roof, Billet Knobs,Bullit Pedals, Parts waiting shipment or installment roush painted interior, rear seat delete kit,autometer gauges On order or bidding on 3/8 Intake spacer Alum Driveshaft 3k PI Stallion TC Cobra R Bumper Mach II Hood Posted by: Just_A_Neon for the top post...did you get over 200whp w/o Nitrous? Impressive for a V6.
Posted by: mysteed my mods are in my sig.....well, most of the major ones anyways.... Posted by: drmac I would like to do the cam, heads, and intake, but can't afford it all at one time. Would a cam only be worth it? Should I wait and do the three together or can I do them separately? Anybody have numbers for cam, heads, or intake (only) on a 99+ 3.8L Posted by: revmaynard02 check my sig. for mods. I haven't dyno'd yet, but I will be shortly to get numbers and a/f ratio's before I do my heads, cam, and all the other stuff waiting to go in. Posted by: oh1coupe Bone Stock now. Grinding on a set of heads~~ Wont be long~ Posted by: kissajew86 Quote:
i hit 181 without a tune and without ud pullies. UD pullies have been proven in the past to add 7 hp and a chip without the cam correction, just advancing the timing, has dynoed with some people 8 hp. that should put me close to the 200 hp mark but if i ever get the money to go dyno it again i will get sure proof. with nitrous i should be close to 270 hp with a 75 shot of course. I may stick a 100 shot in there for an ennis run....
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Posted by: kissajew86 yep just give me a place and a time Posted by: mysteed heres everything that i have so far. i hope to get a dyno next month Engine: Flowmaster 40 series dual exhaust MAC CAI 8.5mm MSD spark plug wires 80mm PRO-M MAF 65mm Throttle body (welded to upper intake) RGR stage3 ported and polished intake RGR stage3 ported and polished lower intake 24lb ford racing injectors Chrome strut tower covers Chrome engine oil cap Chrome windshield washer cap Driveline: Ford C springs GT shocks and struts Interior: custom 2 tone black and grey billet AC knobs, e-brake, rear coat hooks, tilt wheel lever, door switch kit, headlight knob, pedal kit 2 10" Power Ackoustik subs Power ackoustik amp custom bock w/ 2 9" neons 2 neons under dash 2 neons in trunk kenwood CD player Exterior: bullit fuel door Cervins ram air hood Saleen s281 rear wing painted altezza taillights mrbodykit Stalker 2000 S-Conversion rear bumper Cervinis stalker front bumper Cervinis stalker side skirts Ultra clear cobra fog lights Ultra clear clear corners Ultra clear headlights 232 emblems 18x9 chrome mach1 rims Posted by: TRUBLUE I wanted to know how much more horses you got out of your 70mm TB? Quote:
Posted by: xsciuga Eh not many performance mods, just got my 04, 3.9... right now I've just got a bunch of jazz..I'm getting gears, posi, and 75shot this month though, hopefully. Interior- 2 1200 watt subs 2000watt amp 12 band Eq gamecube w/ wireless controllers Ps2, w/ 4way(to switch between gamecube and ps2, pimpp) 2 7" lcd screens(visors) Replaced interior and trunk lights w/ blue bulbs neons under dash and in trunk around subs and junk Custom dash/ gauges I just picked up another job cause I'm droppin a bunch of money..Roush kit/ exhaust, smoked headlights, roush stage 2 suspension =0) hah, I probaly won't even touch the motor for a few more months..Inless I get the gears/posi/75 shot. hope it all works out. Posted by: silverstang96 hey, I have a v6 and wanted to put a dual exaust on my mustang. i was wondering if u guys knew if i could just install a v6 dual adapter kit and put on any regualar 4.6 liter GT exaust catback system....say with a SLP loudmouth II exaust kit? with that work or is there more to it? Posted by: kissajew86 Quote:
Posted by: ExBamaGal Guess I can update my mods...finally got Flowmaster 40 series dual exhaust. Not much but it's more than stock
Posted by: kissajew86 I moved all the UD pully discussion to a new thread Posted by: 1969Vette Current mods: Performance - GT true dual takeoff exhaust w/ H pipe Future mods: Performance - definate Densecharger full length intake 42% UD Pulleys 1.8 Roller Rockers small stuff like wires/plugs - maybe Superchip trac-lok w/ gears (im not too big on the gears, but maybe) Style - definate Saleen front bumper (got into small, accident, need a new one anyway) Mach-1 grill delete (gets rid of cheap plastic-looking honeycomb grill) Flaming pony - (on Competition Orange, should look really good) Emblems (3.9L where the dealer is (drivers side) and V6 where ford is) - most likely Sequential taillights Saleen side scoops (gets rid of cheap plastic v6 inside of scoops, goes with bumper) Rims, Saleen-type rims or the new deep dish bullit's (black w/ chrome) but not 'til my stocks get beat up - doubtful, but will if i feel the need to do something Hood, possibly black widow (gets rid of small last small cheap plastic peice) Spoiler/wing (Cobra 'R', but Im worried about the new holes and repainting) then maybe side skirts (that dont stick out alot), i like stock rear bumper. the bumper, grill delete, flaming pony, emblems, sequentials, intake, and ud pulleys should be on by May-june. 1.8RRs by jun-aug. My favorite/only mod? GT Takeoffs, best word to describe it is "smooth". Its my only mod, because ive been paying the car off early, now i am like 2yrs ahead on a 5yr loan, so im going to start modding soon for this summer. Posted by: 1969Vette update.... Saleen front bumper (ordered) demolet.com's 3d full length intake (ordered) sequential taillights (ordered) Posted by: RGR Quote:
with boltons and true dual exhaust... but that cam is old news, I designed that in 2000 I think when I was helping RPM-Mustangs get a start, he has other grinds now but that one is still popular for the cheap springs and pushrods it uses... I'd strongly recommend a newer grind and you're in luck, I will spec you out one and for free, plus tell you what to buy and where (below retail) if you email me. rgrcfm1@yahoo.com You can port your own heads and intakes if you have basic skills, and the cam will be a huge contributor for a split port streeter! One fellow got 236 RWHP with the old 207 cam and lots of porting, and a setup I just finished last summer got 243 RWHP with stock valve heads with an auto trans, coulda been around 260 RW on a 5 speed but that is just a guess. He has a much larger cam in it, but has heavily ported intakes to match, and is getting a blower later on down the road. IMO the cam is too big for NA but worked pretty well, it uses modern lobes with aggressive ramps, from Comp Cams, my #1 favorite grinder by far! I do not port anymore for others, get that from RPM or SSM, both are good, or DIY-it, it is not that hard. PS: cam only is a good mod, if you get the tune too, but if you have the skills I'd port the heads and/or intakes while they are off there. Just minor head porting pays off, do most of the work on the exhaust ports, and a cleanup on the intake ports, and port the intakes, making them as smooth as possible and concentrate on enlarging the short runners more (to the gasket lines) all the way thru. Bigger TB's are a waste unless unless you do the post removal on 99^ intakes, that is the posts in the crossover tube. They keep the crossover flow down to approximately what the stock TB flows, and anything bigger in a TB is a waste. Post removal allows ~200 CFM more in the crossover, then a big TB can actually help (if your engine can use the extra air that is!) Posted by: RGR Big TB's are usually for strokers... Posted by: 1969Vette sequential tailights received and installed today. the taillights are a bitch to uninstall, the actual harnesses are simple, but the overall look is good and worth it if you dont mind pain and scraped knuckles. so my *2* mods are now... Performance GT Takeoffs with H pipe Styling Sequential Taillights Posted by: RGR For $1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1995 V6, bone stock internal engine... External performance mods are as follows: Pacesetter crossover, true duals, 2.25" MAC stainless muffs 3.73's, T-Lok, 7.5" rear MAC CAI The prior owner (my friend, PilotMulvs) ran a mid 15 in this setup, it's mostly cuz he is a great driver at the track! The reason I'm getting this for a great price is that I've known Pilot since 1998 and he is buds with my son also, who is now 17 and needs a car ![]() Plus the car needs Head Gaskets, and Pilot wants a newer COBRA. Current complete mods list, see attachment: PS: We are planning a big stroker for this car as the replacement engine, bigger than anyone has done yet, and I am completely capable, I have been doing this V6 thingy longer than anyone in the USA, I started when Morana was the only game in V6 Mustangs, and was running carbs (but going 12's in a V6!!!) ![]() See "SIX OFFENDER" in February's MM&FF, I did the engine combo's for José Cardenas, they got the article a bit wrong on the details, I did all the engine speccing, porting, and special intakes. Even the 4.3 stroker. Posted by: kissajew86 if you have dyno's when you are done i encurage you to post them! Posted by: RGR Quote:
Yeah Baby! I want to be the first one to go over 300 RWHP NA and hope to do it with the single port. I don't think anyone has hit 300 RWHP NA with any Ford V6 yet... Posted by: RGR We've started tearing into the motor, hope the block and pistons are OK, I will be shooting for top numbers on an NA stock shortblock! Here is the basic engine mods list: -BIG cam, not settled on specs yet -Heavily milled BV heads, we want ~10:1 or a bit more. -Race Ported/Welded (or epoxy, epoxy is your friend!) lower intake, it will have straightened runners with no lumps from bolt bosses or the like. -Custom Upper Intake, not decided yet, but I have done lot of these. -Custom Tune, might get a tuner to come in and dyno tune it... This setup should cause lots of ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Posted by: 1969Vette I think quite a few people are over 300rwhp... although i dont think any are single port, so you may be the first to do that. Posted by: kissajew86 Quote:
after they are ported out well they flow pretty decent.... the single port has the advantage to a point becasue of the good flowing heads, however the intake eventually catches up with it from what i understand. Posted by: RGR The key word here is NA and no one has posted a dyno graph (or even a claim) of 300 RWHP NA. They are all SC'ed or Turbo. I check out the V6Power dyno list. It is the most extensive dyno list, but I was wondering if you guys over here knew of one. Posted by: RGR Quote:
I'm a founding member of V6P and I've done lots of single port work, not asking for help just info. I've done EFI V6 Mustang porting longer than anyone in the USA actually... The heads do flow pretty well, I've gotten ~230 CFM pretty easily with cheap big valves, I'm really gonna push a set this year. Maybe even big valve seats, so I can get bigger valves in there than the stock seats allow. Posted by: Xerxeese Please do not do that again. There was no need. If you have something you would like to say in a derogatory manner to someone , please do it via personal message. This post is supposed to be about mod lists and dyno. Lets keep it that way. Posted by: RGR Quote:
some clarity above. I don't get mad and slam people on message boards. Now to be back on topic, I was wondering if anyone knew of an NA V6 that exceeded 300 RWHP NA and I may have found one, SSM's green notch back hit 287 RWHP and now Tom Y of SSM has added LT headers and exhaust improvements, and says it feels like it has possibly hit that, and it probably will if the changes are tuned for. That's on a 4.3 SPI. Posted by: kissajew86 rgr, xerxeese was not refering to you, there were quite a few ugly remarks we deleted that were made by 1969Vette. Posted by: 1969Vette ... i didnt think that post went through. it was just about you being first at doing this and i thought you said it much more than you did... although you have said it a few times on this same page. I wasnt really trying to be mean or anything, just got tired of reading the same thing in so many posts... sorry.my butt dyno says my car has gained power over last week when I installed my cold air intake. I guess the computer is still adjusting. I also hear it sucking in air at startup now. still no whistling though. Posted by: RGR I was just trying to establish a background, didn't mean to overdo it. I'll just try and help as much as possible and I know I can still learn from most anyone, I'm open to new (seemingly) freaky ideas, a closed mind gathers no moss or something like that, so I try and stay open. We're cool 69Vette Dude, ![]() and Thanks X and Kissajew, for having my back
Posted by: 1969Vette yea, we're cool... if you're going for RWHP... you're should get a lightened flywheel, aluminum or even carbon fiber driveshaft... those may be cheaper than certain engine mods and help you get to that magic number instead of just thinking about the motor alone. the lightened flywheel can supposedly give around 20 RWHP... and the driveshaft could give 5-10RWHP+, not to mention it would be more easily revving and putting less strain on the engine. Just something to think about, although im sure you have already. Posted by: RGR Quote:
always a good strip mod, cuz if you launch at high RPM you lose that initial thrust of using the built-up inertia to throw the car forward, but on the other hand, after launch you recover RPM's quicker, so it's kind of a trade. Most guys just use the stock flywheel, it is a decent compromise for the street and strip. Some dedicated drag racers use a heavier flywheel, but most road racers find the lightweight versions best. Your choice here! The driveshaft is a good mod for any setup. It is like reducing un-sprung weight in your suspension as it relates to flywheels and driveline. Reducing mass after the constantly rotating engine is good for everyone. Quote:
Posted by: 1969Vette so youre building a drag car? i was just saying that to help you get to your performance goals on the dyno. Posted by: RGR Yes! This is goinf to be a workhorse V6. The heads come off today. If everything is OK, we'll commence with the "Ultimate Stock Shortblock" V6 build. At least it will be my interpretation of that...
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Can you help with which direction I can go and where to find parts and someone to do the work. Gus Posted by: kissajew86 please discuss gusfly's post here : http://www.muscle-mustangs.com/forum...ead.php?t=7780 Please do not have discussions in this post, i would prefer to keep this dyno charts/mod list. i will clean up in a couple of days. Posted by: houg just getting in the stang game Quote:
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Posted by: ExBamaGal houg...that's when you take your car to be put on a machine that will tell your how much hp/tq you're putting out
Posted by: _J_ 2000 v6 Roush Vert. Mods: * 4-speed Auto (4R70W) with PA transbrake VB * TMA Twin Turbo kit www.tmaturbo.com * 70mm BBK TB * Under drive crank pulley * 8.8 rear with 3.55's * 310lph fuel pump * 60lb injectors (got them big so I can reuse them for my 550+rwhp goal) * tune by Justin@VMP and Matt@FP 381-RWHP 430-RWTQ @ 12psi with 14* timing 11.2 A/F.. * 100% stock 3.8L motor ... Stock upper/lower intake * Stock heads / cam / rr * Stock internals ![]() Best ET to date .. 12.1 @ 110.6 MPH with a race weight of 3830lb Posted by: Xerxeese Quote:
Impressive! Posted by: 95Pony My Mods: 1995 3.8L V6 Mustang, Teal with black/gray interior 5 speed manual Performance: Supersix P&P Intakes Supersix Superheads Wiseco forged pistons, forged H-beam 351W rods Crower Cam (216/224, .51/.53 lift 112 LSA) 1.8 Adj. Harland Sharp Billet RR BBK 56mm Throttle Body 90mm Lightening MAF Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump 42# Injectors JBA plug wires ~ Vortech V2 SQ 2 core air-to-air intercooler PCV delete EGR delete SCT tune Exhaust: MAC Long Tube Headers - ceramic coated MAC Off Road H Bassani BX Cat Back Drivetrain: MGW Short Throw Shifter (red handle) 3:73 Gears with T-Lok Suspension: Vogtland Springs Koni Sport Yellow Adjustable Shocks and Struts Kenny Brown Subframe Connectors front and rear sway bars Appearance (the ghey stuff): Clear Diamond Headlights and Side Markers Clear GT Style Fog lights/switch GT Style Spoiler 1997 GT takeoff 17" wheels Falken 451 tires - 245/45/17 H&R 1" wheel spacers - rear Various appearance changes Stereo: Pioneer DEH-P650 (with steering wheel remote) Infinity Kappa speakers Infinity Basslink Audiovox Sirius Satellite Plug & Play Dyno:
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