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Eleanor Body Kit For 1970 Fastback??

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Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

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Posted by: retroboss

ive got a 70 boss and a friend with a 69 mach 1 and im not sure people would buy a kit for a 70 unless they were just doing it to do it... the 69 and 70 body designs were pretty much badass and still are. to me it just wouldnt look right



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

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Originally Posted by retroboss
ive got a 70 boss and a friend with a 69 mach 1 and im not sure people would buy a kit for a 70 unless they were just doing it to do it... the 69 and 70 body designs were pretty much badass and still are. to me it just wouldnt look right
well there is no doubht that the 69 and 70 boss and mach 1 are badass even the none boss and mach 1 are badass cars. if i have a boss or a mach 1 i wouldnt change them for a elanor kit that would be really stupid due that the value of the car would just drop down no doubht about it. but lest keep in mind that in those 2 years were probably built over 80 thousand fastbacks. just the same way people are now buying the kits for the 67-68 to me those to years look bad ass as well. im right now working in the design i will post some pics soon . but thank you very much for your comments i really apreciated them i know know that people with a boss or a mach 1 will not get this kit. please anybody can reply to this even people that dont own 1969-1970 fastbacks ..if you will have one will you get the kit? thanks.



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

jejejejje



Posted by: retroboss

destroys the body line



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

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Originally Posted by retroboss
destroys the body line
it doesnt destroy them it makes them a bit diferent lol..
like i say imma make it mine like that..



Posted by: Aussie XAXB

I've long been a fan of that body style, 69-70. It's my favorite generation. I vote no on an Eleanor kit for it.

Steve



Posted by: retroboss

a body kit for a 70 would be out of place and probably non attractive because there was no special versions of the car except the shelby and the body wasnt much different either just front and rear a full kit on a 70 would make it look ricey.. body kits are for the 68's and lower



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

Quote:
Originally Posted by retroboss
a body kit for a 70 would be out of place and probably non attractive because there was no special versions of the car except the shelby and the body wasnt much different either just front and rear a full kit on a 70 would make it look ricey.. body kits are for the 68's and lower
well the reason why i thought about doing something to it is cuz it seems that everybody wants the 69's and lower if you look everywhere the 70's are the cheapest outthere to buy . i really agree that the body of the 70's is maybe the best body design ever. and did all ready mentioned that im not going to make the eleanor kit for it but instead of that im going to make some modifications to it like the side squirts with the outlet for the mufflers. im not intending to turn the mustang into a japanesse style body kit car. lol. if u pay attention to my design all i did was just project the lines of the car more out. i personally like the car very much as it is, but like i told u im going to make some modifications to it just to personalized the car for myself and like i mentioned if somebody else likes it at might do one for them. that is all
I REALLY APRECIATED YOUR COMMENTS CUZ WITH YOUR HELP MADE ME REALIZED ELEANOR KIT FOR THE 1970 WONT JUST WORK. THANKS.

OH ONE MORE THING RETROBOSS I DONT KNOW IF IS YOUR CAR THE ONE YOUR SHOWING IN THIS PICS BUT YOU CAN SEE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE THEIR CARS A LIL DIFERENT THEN THE REST OF THE PEOPLE AND IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME JUST LOOK AT THOSE SIDE MUFFLERS IN THAT PIC DONT THEY LOOK KINDA RICEY! LOL OH YEA AND THE WHEELS



Posted by: retroboss

yes the car in the sig is my car me and CPwerks made a rendetion of what my cars going to look like so i told him what i wanted and he did it. and thats my way i making my car different from everyone elses besides the fact its a B2
and the side exit tip does not look ricey because the boss 302 trans am racers had side exit exhaust. i think that the ricers copied us.



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

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Originally Posted by retroboss
yes the car in the sig is my car me and CPwerks made a rendetion of what my cars going to look like so i told him what i wanted and he did it. and thats my way i making my car different from everyone elses besides the fact its a B2
and the side exit tip does not look ricey because the boss 302 trans am racers had side exit exhaust. i think that the ricers copied us.
I didnt think it looked ricers i was just asking you if you thought it did cuz i hella like it and you can see in my design i added those just in square style. and what ricers copied that you are u talking about? to be hones with you i havent been a mustang fan long enough i only like fastback mustangs 64-70 does it i dont like the new ones . SO anyways peace out i hope i have my mustang all done by next summer and we get a chance for you to see it in person. nice talking to you ..

oh one question so this pics are not the real pics of how u car looks like ? is more like a photoshop colladge of how u going to turn ur mustang into??

im not really sure wheter if they did or not but the reason why u mustang look so agressive is that cause they wided out the picture so ur car actually looks wider then it really is. u have other pics u want to share from diferent angles??



Posted by: retroboss

thats a pic of a real car we just modified it.. and thats a rendering of what its going to look like and its going to look aggressive because its going to have 900 horses under the hood and i dont like stock looking cars that are sleepers.. i want people to see its fast



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

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Originally Posted by retroboss
thats a pic of a real car we just modified it.. and thats a rendering of what its going to look like and its going to look aggressive because its going to have 900 horses under the hood and i dont like stock looking cars that are sleepers.. i want people to see its fast
900 hp that is sweet i think close to 600 good enough for my stang for now.
hey here is another pic of my design you can see more smoth lines..



Posted by: Jimbo_Jack

get a real pic that looks nasty!!! lol listen to retro the elanore kit looks nice but not for a boss!



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

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Originally Posted by Jimbo_Jack
get a real pic that looks nasty!!! lol listen to retro the elanore kit looks nice but not for a boss!
real pic lol like yours? that is fine that looks nasty to you im still going to make it. and by the way read the entire tread so you see this is not an eleanor kit and is not for a boss.jajajajjajaa
you know what im going to designed one 70 fastback with the eleanor kit so then we can see how it will look



Posted by: retroboss

not trying to diss or anything.. but you should have someone do a real picture of what you want your render image doesnt even look like a 70 and the front end is way to pointed or at least get a good sketch on paper



Posted by: Jimbo_Jack

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Originally Posted by retroboss
not trying to diss or anything.. but you should have someone do a real picture of what you want your render image doesnt even look like a 70 and the front end is way to pointed or at least get a good sketch on paper
That's what i meant



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

Quote:
Originally Posted by retroboss
not trying to diss or anything.. but you should have someone do a real picture of what you want your render image doesnt even look like a 70 and the front end is way to pointed or at least get a good sketch on paper
you know what i guess u r not reading what im also posting beacuse who told u i was trying to make an exact replica of the 1970 fastback the way i made this car is exacly the way i want mine to look like and is totally aceptable that you dont like it and maybe alot of people might not like it either. this post was about making an eleanor kit for the 70 but after not getting much feedback i decided maybe not a good idea so then i designed my mustang this way cause is how i want to turn mine into at might yes have the front end to pointy and at might change that a bit but if u look at those stangs from the top the hood does come out a bit ponty. and about having someone else do the designs form me lol i dont need it i have enough skills to do so. so here is nother stang i did a 70 mach 1 using my other program 3ds max takes more time better results. the program i used for the black one was rhino3d im experimenting with not as good as 3ds max.
anyways have a wonderfull day u 2



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

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Originally Posted by Jimbo_Jack
That's what i meant
here is a comparacion of the real car vs my car to the ponty nose and to the one that said it doesnt even look like 70 boss lo. peace



Posted by: retroboss

im the one that said it didnt look like a 70.. ive been around the 69 and 70 all my life and ive seen people do all sorts of stuff to them and the only people that like seeing modified bodies on stuff like that these days are people that just want to see something different but wouldnt want for them self like in vegas at the show.. ive seen a 70 get modified body parts to the orignials they have already and it didnt look to bad but it was still bad enough for people to talk smack about them at fab fords.. just dont do something you will regret later if you want a car to modify why not go buy something newer that already has prefabed body kits. if you want your car to look different and better do it with class and make the style of the car different.. you dont have to put a body kit on a car to make it look good unless its an import but there still ugly with them anyways you would get alot more props and points if you went with style instead of adding to a car that doesnt need it



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

Quote:
Originally Posted by retroboss
im the one that said it didnt look like a 70.. ive been around the 69 and 70 all my life and ive seen people do all sorts of stuff to them and the only people that like seeing modified bodies on stuff like that these days are people that just want to see something different but wouldnt want for them self like in vegas at the show.. ive seen a 70 get modified body parts to the orignials they have already and it didnt look to bad but it was still bad enough for people to talk smack about them at fab fords.. just dont do something you will regret later if you want a car to modify why not go buy something newer that already has prefabed body kits. if you want your car to look different and better do it with class and make the style of the car different.. you dont have to put a body kit on a car to make it look good unless its an import but there still ugly with them anyways you would get alot more props and points if you went with style instead of adding to a car that doesnt need it
lol style well what can be style for some people might not be style for someone else i mean really nothing against ur car but those wheels look like the ricey wheels we see in many japanesse cars no offense. but if u like them is all that matters. im not trying to make a body kit for this mustang and market it. the only thing i will change is the front but it will still look like a 70 mustang and i will add the side skirts and shaved them so it will look like is part of the car and also for the muflers and not a add on also the whole front will be one single part atachment not just a lower spoiler like those body kits with those huge air inducts. i honestly belive my final design looks just smoth and a bit diferent without sacrificing the shape of the car and making it look ridicuolus. like i told u i want to have my mustang that when im in the road might be the only mustang to look like that. like i told u i do not thing at all that the mustang looks ugly and it needs the modifications im doing is for my own personal reasons and i will not regreat doing them after all how more cool its to have something you personally design and didnt need it someone else do it for you . and im not trying to experimenting with this mustang i have done many profesional custom projects and interships with car companies so is not about that. anyways i think we have discuss enough here you obiously have problems with people doing stuff to this mustang lol..when the car is done i will love for you to personally see it it will be next year in the SEMA SHOW together with other projects we r working on.. so here is the final design of how exacly my mustang will look like color wheels all crhome inducts all same.





Posted by: retroboss

thats ok what ever you want to do ive posted pictures of that on about 8 fourms and got the info i just translated it.. if your going to destroy a body that doesnt need any mods go ahead and if you havent noticed the rims on my car ARE mustang rims and have a cobra in the middle so fine define of rice there when they are stang wheels



Posted by: ACRDESIGNS

Quote:
Originally Posted by retroboss
thats ok what ever you want to do ive posted pictures of that on about 8 fourms and got the info i just translated it.. if your going to destroy a body that doesnt need any mods go ahead and if you havent noticed the rims on my car ARE mustang rims and have a cobra in the middle so fine define of rice there when they are stang wheels
jajajjajaja u really funy guy i swear.lol dude just cuz they are mustang wheels they still look ricey to me and if the car dont need modifications why are u doing mods to it? i never said the car needed it modifications im doing stuff to it cuz i can and want to. i mean be realistic about your car too the picture you r showing is been modify is wided out the wheels are out of place they are touching the fender in real life that wouldnt work show a pic of your real car. anyways u know maybe if my car really looked like yours and if it was a boss i wouldnt change a thing lol but since is not im. anyways like i told u im building this car for me and i dont care if you post the car in the ugliest mustang section either lol and i think im done with comments in here i would not reply to any of your mesages cuz i really got your point u just dont like my mustang lol and like i told u before is all good , lest see when the car is done whose car gets more attention yours or mine lol. hey thanks for the pubiclity in the other forums whatever u r placing my pictures lol

ps here is my last pic the pic of my mustang and how it will look lol dont tell me it doesnt look better in black? lol oh yea after thiking at might add the front crhome bumper dont know until is done how i like it better but here u can see it with it..lol



Posted by: retroboss

the reason im moding mine is because its a non matching b2 has a 69B302 and i have a 71B351 motor im building for it.. im not modifiying anything that cant be easly changed. i dont care about matching numbers wich is why im doing what im doing. and theres 2 ways of thinking what will get more attenation. im not after looks i build professional race engines. i build to beat everyone else instead of dumping all my money into a body job and some interior. and if your thinking of going with a boss 429 scoop id ditch that idea and go with a mach scoop or shave 2 inches off the b429 because you wont be able to see and gets verry distracting. and you should take your car to shows and to vegas. i wont because i want mine to be the car everyone see's then looks around for it and never finds it. a show now and then wont hurt but i plan on putting over 60k into the car. and btw there is a thread on the classic car fourm with a prototype sketch of the 70E.. you should learn XSI soft image your you can create ideas faster and better with it and it wont look like legos.


i took the same digital animation academy as him and you can create what ever you want with it..



Posted by: Aussie XAXB

Speaking of side exhaust....the 1970 AAR Cuda and Challenger T/A had side exiting exhaust just ahead of the rear tires. So does the car in my signature.

Retroboss, I really like the rendering of your car with the exception of the tires and rims. I am old school and feel that the old muscle cars should have "meats" as we used to call them for tires. The 70 Boss was never a premier handling (perhaps in relation to other cars for it's day it was good and only in SCCA race trim) car and putting on rubber band tires to improve handling will only help you to feel every pebble and twig in the road. Also to people in my generation it has an anemic look with such narrow sidewalls.

My car will only have 600 RWHP when done. But I've got reasons for that number.

ACRDESIGNS, whatever you want to do and enjoy is up to you. However when you have the car at shows or in public and as you mention "lest see when the car is done whose car gets more attention yours or mine".....well it depends on the kind of attention you are talking about. Decapitated bodies get attention but not the kind you would like. Also, it is a lot of work and pain to read your posts. If english is a second language for you then I can understand and that's fine. My hat's off to anyone that speaks more than one language. If it is your first language then you've got a LOT of work to do.

Below is a picture of the car that came to mind as I looked at your last design. The front end of your car seems inspired by or closely resembles this one, an old Corvair.

Steve



Posted by: retroboss

i dont like the look of old anymore it has 14inch cragars on it right now and im tired of the old look everyone has it.. im putting all new technology on the car and 14s wont work with the disc brake kit i have for it. and instead of getting bigger old looking rims i decided to go with new fr500s because they are deep dish and blend in with the dark on the body.. i dont want shiny chrome rims that show because im not a chrome person thats for old timers mines a sleeper with style



Posted by: Aussie XAXB

I understand what you are saying. I wouldn't stick with 14's either, I would go with 15's. Yeah, Cragars have been done too much.

The backspacing on newer rims is typically way different than on the older cars. Will the Cobra rims be too close to the inner fenderwell?

Steve



Posted by: retroboss

no. im cutting the shock tower bracers out and making Tube framed brackets instead. then ill recover them. but the plan is to put mustang II suspension on it for handeling and room wise. what i plan on doing under the hood requires more fender side room so i figured i would just shave them a bit tube frame the front to mustang II specs and get the space needed for what im going to do. there still might be some rubb if im not careful but i dont plan on hitting speed bumps at 20MPH either so as long as i cruise it and play around on good roads no worry about the rub if it rubs at all. ive ran into someone that has the chrome Cobra rims on a 70 and has the setup i wanted so i know it will work with some TLC and some time.



Posted by: Aussie XAXB

Ah, cool to have a contact that has been there already!


Steve



Posted by: CPWerks

I'm working on 1970 Fastback with this particular kit. Should be done very soon. And yes, it is possible.



Posted by: retroboss

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