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460 in 66 Mustang
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Posted by: fordkid

I have a 460 that I am buiding and I want to put it in a 65-67 mustang, has any one ever done so, if so how hard is it to do and what are the mods that you have to do to get it to work.
Thanks

Posted by: BlueBoss302

You'll need a shoehorn to make it fit. Some things I would consider:

1. Can you buy reinforced shock towers for this car?? If so...do it!!
2. You will need to find heavier duty steering linkage.
3. you will need a heavier duty rearend.
4. Shock towwer braces
5. After engine and tranny are together, will you have enough clearence at
the firewall??
6. you will most likely need a custom length drive shaft
7. Also heavy duty springs to handle the extra weight you are loading on
them.
8. Sub-frame connectors to stiffen the car to handle all the weight and
power you're installing .
9. heavy duty brakes to stop that thing once you're moving. If stopping is a
option.LOL!!!
10. Lots of time ,patience, more time and patience,money time, patience.
11. You're cramming something in there that wasn't meant to be...sooooo
LOTS of trial and error, blood sweat and tears...I imagine lots of tears
12. Other than those little things....should be a snap...Good luck!!!

Posted by: Nazz

Is that what Bullitt had? Mabye that was a 390....

Posted by: BlueBoss302

Almost NAZZ,
Bullitt had a'67 with 390. Ford beefed up the car for that power plant at the factory. The '66 in question was/is to fragile for that huge engine. I would put a HIPO 289 or 302 in it, then he might get away with little or no mods. If was doing this car, since it's not going to be original, I would definitely put big 4 wheel discs on her. I've got a friend who has a '66 coupe with a volkswagon diesel...he's getting about 45 mpg.

Posted by: MCRPARTS

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBoss302

Almost NAZZ,
Bullitt had a'67 with 390. Ford beefed up the car for that power plant at the factory. The '66 in question was/is to fragile for that huge engine. I would put a HIPO 289 or 302 in it, then he might get away with little or no mods. If was doing this car, since it's not going to be original, I would definitely put big 4 wheel discs on her. I've got a friend who has a '66 coupe with a volkswagon diesel...he's getting about 45 mpg.

He didn't AHHHHH say it isn't so

Posted by: boss66tcode

IF you're looking to do this on a 65-66, You'll need a mustang II style suspension to make the big block fit. Seriously consider taking out the fender aprons and mandrel bending some steel tubing from the firewall to the radiator support area, with some extra sections going to the frame rail.
It would be major custom work, but it is doable.

Subframe connectors and a strong 35 spline 8" set up should go without saying.

67 and 68 car is two inches wider, and the big block will fit with fewer modifications

Posted by: boss66tcode

whoops.... I meant 9" set up

Posted by: 68GT351C

65-66 mustang do not have the room for a 460 unless you remove the shock towers and that is why the mustang II suspension is necessary. It requires a good welder and is expensive. 67-70 mustangs have the room but just barely as they are only 2" wider. aftermarket headers and motor mounts are available and probably mandatory, the 9" rear is definately recommended. the body and frame should be beefed up accordingly

Posted by: Lambert66

I'm working on the same project....

www.mustangsforever.com

Posted by: zx10rracer

I've also got a 66 Mustang Coupe that I'm getting ready for a 429 motor. The car is probably a good 4 to 5 months out from even being ready for the engine so I figured now is the best time to try to find any info on the motor swap. Basically I'm looking for anyone who has done this and knows of what other little have to change that aren't thought of right off the bat.

So far for the front end I'm probably doing the TCP (total control products) coil over suspension to allow getting rid of the shock towers, full motor plate mounts, then work down to the sub frame connector and as badly as I want the TCP rear coil over system, probably going to save that for a different project.

Posted by: Aussie XAXB

There doesn't seem to be any swap parts available online for putting a 460 into a 66 Mustang. Plenty for 67 and up though.

I think with the amount of modification that will be required, what that will cost, fabricating custom parts to make it work, and then to have an extremely nose heavy car that will fight you on every turn that you will be sorry you spent your money that way. You would be further ahead to put a supercharged 302, 351W or 351C into it. Probably will cost you the same or a little less and would require less radical modification to get it in there. Also there are readily available parts for this and you can have at least as much power as you could out of the 460.

Steve

Posted by: droff85

all right ive got somethings to think about on the 460 in a 66. i have one for my self so i have thought about this a little too. there were some comments about the weight on the front end. you can take the engine and mount it as far back as you can to the firewall. the next thing is the space in the engine compartment. yes bullit had a 67-68 with a 390 but the 390 is actually wider than the 460. you can put a mustang II front end under the car and it should hold the weight but you also need to consider the weight of the car is supported by two little flimsy rails that dont run the full length of the car and they and they also have the support from the inner fenders that are attached to the firewall and they get extra support from it. so these are just some things to consider. i know i havent touched every aspect of the swap but i do think this will be very helpful. here is a website that has covered several aspects of this swap, not specifically for a 460 in a 66 mustang, he has a falcon but i do know that 64-66 mustangs and certain year falcons (im not exactly what years) are the same front suspension. http:bellsouthpwp.net/1/b/1bad6t/htlinks.html this will take you directly to his site finder that has some interesting subjects for the blue-blooded ford guys that antique mustangs or falcons. thanks for letting me speak my mind and maybe i help you think of some things that havent been thought of yet.

Posted by: max speed

All it takes is some thought and the right tools. At this time I'm building a Ford Festiva with a 460 and C6 with 9" in it. There is no way for it to work with a stock body, there is no strength. Im using an S10 frame from a 95 two wheel drive for the frame. I'm cutting the frame down and moving things to obtain the proper wheel base for a Festiva. My next step is to mount the motor, transmission and roll bars along the the 9inch. Last step will be to gut out the body and make body mounts and put in the floor. By the way the drivers seat will be located where the back seat is in the stock location. I know your Stang body is a little narrower than my 70 and to make the 460 fit you will have to do some mods but it has been done before.

Posted by: max speed

By the way I was told that the 460 (475) in my Mach would be too nose heavy... Well my friend was wrong! 1.70 60 foot time with 11.80 in the 1/4 mile and New York Int. Drag Way on just the motor, no spray! BF comp TAs
Which is not bad for a street car on street tires.
http://www.geocities.com/maxspeed130...?1140193750958

Posted by: Aussie XAXB

The nose heavy reference would have been for handling, not straight line performance.

Interesting Festiva project. Looking forward to seeing it when it is done. I drove one for 5 years myself.

Steve

Posted by: max speed

True it is less of a concern when drag racing but for me I have found it not to be a problem on the street. I would guess road racing and running hot into turns would change my mind about the nose heavy statement.

Posted by: 81maroonhatch

Quote:

Originally Posted By BlueBoss302
Almost NAZZ,
Bullitt had a'67 with 390. Ford beefed up the car for that power plant at the factory. The '66 in question was/is to fragile for that huge engine. I would put a HIPO 289 or 302 in it, then he might get away with little or no mods. If was doing this car, since it's not going to be original, I would definitely put big 4 wheel discs on her. I've got a friend who has a '66 coupe with a volkswagon diesel...he's getting about 45 mpg.

the bullit was a 68 fast back with factory paint (yes highland green was a factory color) there also is a big difference in the body stylesfrom 67 to 68 its possible to make a 67 to a 68 with lots of body modifications

even tho the 460 is a great motor build up a 351W bored and stroked and blown my friend put a 351W stroked to a 408 in his 67 stand runs 12.8