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Fun Ford Weekend Aug.16 & 17th
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Posted by: PULNGZ

Who will be attending this this year???

I love going to this event EVERY year!

PULNGZ

Posted by: Mustang5L5

I'll be there....spectating of course

Posted by: lxfiveo

I'm planning on being there...True Street on Saturday and Quick 8 on Sunday.

Posted by: serviceman1

I will be there for sure. Hoping to meet somwere for the ride up on saturday.

Posted by: jmac72187

Might go up on Sunday if anything interesting is happening that day.

Does anyone have the schedule for the events?

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

I think I'm out both days.

Posted by: bullitt5177

I plan on both days most likely, but definitely at least one.

Posted by: Xerxeese

Ill be there Saturday, sans Mustang. Helping Tony out with the MCR booth :-)

Posted by: Jarhead46

I'm gonna go at least one day not sure which one yet, but im up for a cruise in.

Posted by: only90s

Here is the Schedule:

SCHEDULE OF EVENTS

Saturday August 16, 2008
Open Gates....7AM
Registration & Tech Inspection....8AM-12PM
Car Show Participant Reg....8AM-1PM
Time Trials (Back of lanes close @ 11AM) ....9AM-11:30AM
Gallop For The Gold (Optional)....11:45AM
Showdown Qualifying (Rds 1, 2 & 3)....12PM, 3PM & 6PM
Begin Bracket Eliminations....1PM
Car Show Judging Complete....2PM
True Street Cruise...2:30PM
Car Show Awards Presentation....3:30PM
**True Street Eliminations...4PM
1st Showdown Eliminations (All classes w/32 or more cars - Optional)....7PM

**Modified Mustangs True Street Quick 8! Top 8 to compete in Quick 8 Format. Top 8 plaques, Winner Plaque, Plus invitation to compete in the finals in Ennis.

Sunday August 17, 2008
Open Gates....8AM
RFC Services....8:15AM
FFW Bracket Tech & Registration....8AM-11AM
Car Show Participant Reg....8AM-1PM
Time Trials (Back of Lanes Close @ 10:30AM)....9AM-11AM
Begin Showdown Eliminations...11AM
Begin Bracket Eliminations....12PM
True Street Awards Presentation...12PM
Car Show Judging Complete....2PM
Car Show Awards Presentation....3:30PM

I like to go Saturday around 2:30pm..check out the show cars and then watch the True Street Cruise leave and then return...then the True Street cars run around 4pm...hang until I get bored..

Sunday I head up around 8-9am...I think we did a big cruise from the Rock last year on Sunday am...it was cool...Alex Dad led the way if I remember correctly..

Posted by: pony281

ill be there fri sat and sunday , fri is street night, sat and sunday im running mod/comp and fast ford .

Posted by: lxfiveo

Quote:

Originally Posted by pony281

ill be there fri sat and sunday , fri is street night, .

Good point....forgot I almost never miss a Friday night the weekend of FFW....one of the best street nights of the year. And for me, it is the last chance I get to fool with the car at the track as they don't allow True Street competitors to run on Saturday morning.

Posted by: Ozz

be there both days, showing.

Posted by: Mustang5L5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozz

be there both days, showing.

I'll prob come by your car then

Posted by: chachee52

I'll probably go one of the days. Isn't this the event that we all cruised up last year from the Rock and my rear end siezed up in Kingston? Or was that Tasca Day? Either way, I'll probably head up.

Posted by: Ozz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang5L5

I'll prob come by your car then

hopefully i'll be around it this time :p

Posted by: EastCoast5.0

I'll be there all weekend I think.

Posted by: badass98svt

Todd, that was Tasca Day. I think

I'll be there, just not sure which day yet. ED, why can't you make it?

Posted by: Xerxeese

Quote:

Originally Posted by badass98svt

Todd, that was Tasca Day. I think

I'll be there, just not sure which day yet. ED, why can't you make it?

He needs a weekend to think of new ways to say....

"LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEE ! ! ! !"

Posted by: langod

Just as a reminder to the NHMC'ers -- Sunday the 17th is also the Club Picnic.

I'm intending on going the 16th and want to ride up as a cruise. Let's do it!

Posted by: jeffl9682

im down for sunday. I have to work saturday till 5.

Posted by: Xerxeese

Quote:

Originally Posted by langod

Just as a reminder to the NHMC'ers -- Sunday the 17th is also the Club Picnic.

I'm intending on going the 16th and want to ride up as a cruise. Let's do it!

any details on the club picnic ? location and such ??

I would like to make it this year :-)

Posted by: serviceman1

I plan on going on saturday looking to hook up at the rock

Posted by: 1BADSNK

I will be going up Sat & Sun. This will be my first time at this event. I want to do the car show atleast one of the days. I was thinking about trying the true street thing but not sure of how all that stuff works. Is it possible to do both?? Any extra info on the non car show stuff would be great. Just trying to plan out what I'm going to do that weekend.

Posted by: MCRPARTS

I'll be there set up as a vendor again this year

Hey if anyone wants to hang and watch some drag racin on that Friday night,it ROCKS I'll hang out.I have to set up on Friday anyway so I'll be there.

STEVE>>>>GO KICK SOME ASS BRO!!!

Posted by: Xerxeese

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCRPARTS

I'll be there set up as a vendor again this year

Hey if anyone wants to hang and watch some drag racin on that Friday night,it ROCKS I'll hang out.I have to set up on Friday anyway so I'll be there.

STEVE>>>>GO KICK SOME ASS BRO!!!

I will meet you up there on Fri !

Posted by: badass98svt

Quote:

Originally Posted by langod

Just as a reminder to the NHMC'ers -- Sunday the 17th is also the Club Picnic.

Man, is that poor planning or is it just me?

Posted by: gilmar4

Quote:

Originally Posted by badass98svt

Man, is that poor planning or is it just me?

Every weekend it is something, Show, FFW, cruise. It is difficult when we plan our yearly calender in January. Somethings are not posted til later. We happen to pick the same week end as FFW. At least we have a planned event, and most people don't attend the second day anyhow.
I'm going to the club picnic for burgers! You and Becky in?

Posted by: 1BADSNK

Ok, I just went on the FFW website. I watched a video from last years car show. OMG, lots & lots & lots & lots of really, really, really, really nice cars!!!!! After watching that I'm afraid to bring my car.WOW. If I can get enough courage up I will do the car show both days. GULP.......

Posted by: MCRPARTS

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilmar4

Can I do take out

Posted by: badass98svt

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilmar4

I was only messing with you guys. I know the club events are planned early in the year. I'm not sure if I'll make the picnic, cuz I don't know what day I'm going to FFW.
I know my sister is planning on going both days and she's briging both stangs.

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by badass98svt

ED, why can't you make it?

Financial difficulties may force me to be COBRA-less soon, it's the only thing of value that I can sell right now.

Posted by: badass98svt

NO!
You can't sell my clone to a complete stranger!

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

I'll be there both days...showing.

I am in for a cruise either days, cant wait.

Posted by: only90s

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilmar4

Every weekend it is something, Show, FFW, cruise. It is difficult when we plan our yearly calender in January. Somethings are not posted til later. We happen to pick the same week end as FFW. At least we have a planned event, and most people don't attend the second day anyhow.
I'm going to the club picnic for burgers! You and Becky in?

I have to Respectfully Disagree with Mr. Vice President...last year I saw many more people on Sunday when we all cruised up together than I did on Saturday...Here is the thread as a reminder.

http://www.mcrparts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11806

For some supporting statistics

..I direct you to the Poll which shows 56% of people going both Sat and Sun as opposed to only 28% for Saturday only...

Looks like NHMC will have to do without me and my Big Mouth on Picnic Day

Posted by: gilmar4

I talked to the guys at FFW and they are considering pushing FFW out another week.....
Yah!

Sorry about this guys, I will talk to the booking gods and see what we can do. I don't plan this stuff alone, as a matter of fact "I" don't even pick the dates, I just make what ever everyone wants, happen.

Do you think , if I can push the picnic off another week, would this be better? If you think so, I will try...

Let me know...

JG

Posted by: only90s

Lets wait a minute and old the Horses(Mustang Reference)....what time is the Picnic and where is it...maybe people can still do both on Sunday?????????????????????????

Posted by: Dark_Cobra

Jim.. Keep the picnic on Sunday. If you got a ton of food and a low turnout, I'll bring the AsianStanger by for clean up duty.. He's gonna be REAL hungry after a weekend of cleaning cars at FFW.. just think of him as insurance, that no food will go to waste.

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

posted from another forum:

Sunday at fun ford is being opened up to all makes and models for the show and racing. This is being done to help drive attendance as participation has been dwindling over the past 2-3 years.

Should be interesting

Posted by: Dark_Cobra

I took it as a Yah! "right".. ... like they can't move FFW .

Just thinkin of the advertising they do for FFW makes me consider Jim was bustin.

Posted by: gilmar4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Cobra

I took it as a Yah! "right".. ... like they can't move FFW .

Just thinkin of the advertising they do for FFW makes me consider Jim was bustin.

I was kidding about pushing out FFW!! I'm flattered that someone thinks I'm the Great and Powerful OZ, (not to be confused with the bright and shiney Ozz...

) but I'm not that ballzy!

I think there will be 2 events that day for NHMC'ers. I'd be at FFW too, but I have a date with spatula and grill...
Have fun guys!!

Posted by: masscobra03

I'll be in for whatever day you guys want to cruise up.

Posted by: jmac72187

I will most likely be doing the cookout but I may go up for the show in the morning. I am undecided right now.

Posted by: PULNGZ

Where is the "Oversight Committee?"

How can a Mustang Club schedule a picnic on the same weekend as:
One of the LARGEST - Yearly Mustang weekend events????

I could see a picnic, at the scene though.

Posted by: PULNGZ

Quote:

COBRA-less soon, it's the only thing of value that I can sell right now.

Ed........What is this about and what's going on here? I don't fully know you, but I do know that, you do LOVE stangs....and I'm sure your COBRA!?!?!? PM ME!

We may have to do an emergency charity event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: chachee52

Don't worry about people not going to the picinic!! This just means that I get more food!! WOOOOHOOOOOO

As for Ed's car being sold, I start the bidding off at $5 (even though I still don't believe that even own one

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by PULNGZ

I'm still getting used to having a mortgage by myself and as Mark can tell you, Met-Life isn't making either of us rich.

Once Stang season is over I'll be back at AutoPaint on Saturdays, so that helps.

Besides, if I sell my COBRA, then there can be no ED DAY!!

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by chachee52

(even though I still don't believe that even own one

It was the black one that got off the wrong exit during the Harpoon trip

Posted by: EastCoast5.0

Quote:

Originally Posted by pulngz

where Is The "oversight Committee?"

How Can A Mustang Club Schedule A Picnic On The Same Weekend As:
One Of The Largest - Yearly Mustang Weekend Events????

I Could See A Picnic, At The Scene Though.

+1!!

Posted by: gilmar4

Quote:

Originally Posted by PULNGZ

Where is the "Oversight Committee?"

How can a Mustang Club schedule a picnic on the same weekend as:
One of the LARGEST - Yearly Mustang weekend events????

I could see a picnic, at the scene though.

Like I said earlier, our picnic was planned before the dates were out for FFW. Sorry for the F#&K Up guys, I'll run the dates by you guys next year. Oh wait, most of you were at the pizza meeting when we anounced the dates, I didn't hear any objections then...

Posted by: lxfiveo

Looks like NEBOC could be gaining some new members!!

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by PULNGZ

How can a Mustang Club schedule a picnic on the same weekend as:
One of the LARGEST - Yearly Mustang weekend events????

They scheduled a picnic on ED DAY???????

Posted by: PULNGZ

Quote:

Like I said earlier, our picnic was planned before the dates were out for FFW.

No biggy. Now we know for sure, for years to come. I think in general FFW schedule is somewhat consistant year to year.

Could some please PM me with the club Picnic details, as I can't locate the July_2008 Newsletter......I can find the other, just not July and the NHMC website states "to see Newsletter for detail."

On the up side...........
IT LOOKS LIKE A NICE GROUP IS FORMING FOR A ROCK -to- FFW so far!!

Posted by: PULNGZ

Ed.......get your ass to FFW.
You can ride with me if you need to......

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by PULNGZ

Ed.......get your ass to FFW.
You can ride with me if you need to......

Saturday I have a family cookout 12-3
I will possibly be there on Sunday if I don't do a softball tournament.
I also need to see if I can get the AsianStanger to clean my car for food!!!

Posted by: gilmar4

Quote:

Originally Posted by lxfiveo

Looks like NEBOC could be gaining some new members!!

I'll keep that in mind.

Posted by: badass98svt

Quote:

Originally Posted by lxfiveo

Looks like NEBOC could be gaining some new members!!

No biggie Jim.
Sucks that I won't make it to the picnic though. I missed it last year and was looking forward to it this year.
Before the pizza meeting next year, I'll write down all the main dates for other Ford/show events. I'm on it! LOL

Posted by: chachee52

Quote:

Originally Posted by LILBLKSNAKE

It was the black one that got off the wrong exit during the Harpoon trip

That could have been anyone's Mustang. I bet it was a rental car

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by chachee52

That could have been anyone's Mustang. I bet it was a rental car

OK,OK, it was also the one chasing Civic chicks!!!

Posted by: Xerxeese

Quote:

Originally Posted by LILBLKSNAKE

OK,OK, it was also the one chasing Civic chicks!!!

....and couldnt keep up

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerxeese

....and couldnt keep up

At least I didn't rear end them

Posted by: chachee52

Wait a minute!! Is this your car to try to get with the Mustang/ford crowd?
http://www.cobracountry.com/monster/home.html

Posted by: Xerxeese

Quote:

Originally Posted by LILBLKSNAKE

At least I didn't rear end them

Man, I am never going to live that down.....

Posted by: Ozz

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorchRedSVT

posted from another forum:

Sunday at fun ford is being opened up to all makes and models for the show and racing. This is being done to help drive attendance as participation has been dwindling over the past 2-3 years.

Should be interesting

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilmar4

I was kidding about pushing out FFW!! I'm flattered that someone thinks I'm the Great and Powerful OZ, (not to be confused with the bright and shiney Ozz...

) but I'm not that ballzy!

LOL!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PULNGZ

I think in general FFW schedule is somewhat consistant year to year.

Yea, August in the mid/late teens every year.

Posted by: badass98svt

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorchRedSVT

posted from another forum:

Sunday at fun ford is being opened up to all makes and models for the show and racing.

Are you sure? That's friggin rediculous!
If the show field AND the racing is open to all makes, then what makes it Fun FORD Weekend?
I'm pretty pissed right now.

Posted by: Ozz

I was interested and went to funfordevents.com, wherein I found a post that said it'd be opened up for True Street. Not sure if that is ALL that is being changed, but that wouldn't be the worst that could happen. ALL racing? Sure, that sucks. The show? Oh fuck no PLEASE keep it Fords only. There's no room at Epping to add too many more cars in the show field anyway, at least without going into the dirt and parking them around that little swamp.

The racing has rougher turnouts though so I can see why they'd want to open it up a little. I hope it doesn't mess up the fun time that it is...

Posted by: gilmar4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozz

I was interested and went to funfordevents.com, wherein I found a post that said it'd be opened up for True Street. Not sure if that is ALL that is being changed, but that wouldn't be the worst that could happen. ALL racing? Sure, that sucks. The show? Oh fuck no PLEASE keep it Fords only. There's no room at Epping to add too many more cars in the show field anyway, at least without going into the dirt and parking them around that little swamp.

The racing has rougher turnouts though so I can see why they'd want to open it up a little. I hope it doesn't mess up the fun time that it is...

The plot thickens..., this is starting to get interesting!! Maybe I'll through a few extra burgers on the grill!

I may even be tempted to invite a "few" NEBOC members!

Posted by: PULNGZ

Quote:

Oh fuck no PLEASE keep it Fords only. There's no room at Epping to add too many more cars in the show field anyway, at least without going into the dirt and parking them around that little swamp.

I go to this, FFW.....resulting from the "ALL FORD CONCEPT!" I have ZERO interest in seeing Non-Fords, If I did Epping hosts plenty a open events for that!
It would be a shame if it was open to all. And OZZ your right realestate would be a problem.

Do you have a link to that Fun Ford Weekend post? If it's in blog form, etc....we could load it up with our feedback???

Posted by: Dark_Cobra

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilmar4

I may even be tempted to invite a "few" NEBOC members!

NEBOC members will eat you out of house and home.. in about 1 hour. Pony Up's Wife can vouch for that.

Posted by: Dark_Cobra

I saw that blurb about opening it up for racing.. I still believe the show is unaffected.

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

The show from what I understand will be still Ford dominated with a Non ford class.....

Let me see if I can get my hands on a copy of the flier and post up.

Ozz, I have to disagree..there is TONS of room at epping...there is alot of grassy area available off to the back...at every event I have been to there only about 1/3 of the feild is taken up. There will NEVER be a show at NED that takes up the whole feild.

Posted by: Dark_Cobra

I was also reading the printed piece in a NED seasonal newspaper last night that we got from somewhere.. (it's the one they have at the rest areas in NH) .. There was a 1/2 page ad for FFW but It had no mention of open to all listed, but of course it probably was printed sometime early this year.

Posted by: gilmar4

FYI...

they are unware of the change "open to all" (racing only). They were going to call FFW marketing and find out the deal, incase they have to take calls regarding this.

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

as a follow up, i went back and read the fine print..it's only being opened up on SUNDAY only...saturday is still Ford only.

Here is my source:
http://newengland-motorsports.com/fo...ad.php?t=33096

I have requested a copy of the flier for our review

Posted by: PULNGZ

THESE MAKE ME "PUKE," especially the sounds the "Potato Launcher" makes!

These are the last things I want to see on Sundays, and/or an All FORD Event!

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

At least we still have ED DAY!!!
I knew FFW was a fad, and that ED DAY was forever!!

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by PULNGZ

the "Potato Launcher"

I have one somewhere, I should bring it and shoot Ian

Posted by: gilmar4

Back to topic please!!!

Your killing me!

Posted by: Dark_Cobra

A wee bit research and an Email to the FFW event coordinator are in progress by myself..

So far I found this on the official Fun ford Event forums.. It has a post by the race director in it.. (in red below)

http://forums.funfordevents.com/showthread.php?t=16309

Quote:

You just have to love these guys:
Timebomb says: I'm not coming back because of all brands
Others comment: FFW is trying to survive
Timbomb says: I like all brands and now I don't like the new schedule
Others comment: Well if FFW dosen't change things and survive they will just cancel the event and that's that
Timebomb says: No, don't cancel
Other comments: if your not going back you become part of the problem.

Opinions are fine and we expect and respect that. All racing organiations are in survival mode this year. When it effects NASCAR and NHRA you can bet it will effect FFW. This was the first race for all brands in so many classes and the first time we tried out the new schedule all in an attempt to generate income and survive. Yes racing organizations are in business to make money. IMO the all brands worked out just fine. Because of weather on Saturday our schedule got all messed up, but all in all it was a great event at a premier facility and FFW will be back!
__________________
Kim "Pinto"Panepinto
FFW - Race Director

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilmar4

Back to topic please!!!

Your killing me!

Fine, but you just lost your turn to shoot Ian with the potato gun!!!

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorchRedSVT

it's only being opened up on SUNDAY only...

They did that last year. After the FFW stuff there was a 20.00 buy-in for what basically turned into a test-n-tune.
What better way to cap off your Ford filled weekend than to eat some "rice pudding" for dessert!!

Posted by: pony281

guys the economy has been getting worse and worse and traveling is very expensive, ffw has the right idea by letting others in , its about money. if the turnout gets lower and lower then its quite possible ffw will be no more. please show up and support our sport !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: MCRPARTS

Quote:

Originally Posted by pony281

guys the economy has been getting worse and worse and traveling is very expensive, ffw has the right idea by letting others in , its about money. if the turnout gets lower and lower then its quite possible ffw will be no more. please show up and support our sport !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I reserved our vendor spot. I heard NOPI cancelled a bunch of shows.

Posted by: Dark_Cobra

That thread mentioned NOPI issues too.

Posted by: MCRPARTS

Also we actually might luck out for our FFW, as soon as the god damn gas went under 4.00/GAL the frickin phone lit up again.

So maybe we'll have a better turn out. I'll bring extra chairs too if anyone wants to park their butt and hang out.

T

Posted by: slowpony

I'll be going up on friday to watch. I can't get the time off and don't have the $dime$ to go sat/sun to watch or race.

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

NOPI was in fact cancelled, not just for NED though but a few events all over the country. As Dana mentioned....attendance is just down all around.

Tony, I'd be more than happy to hang out with you for a while on Saturday and or Sunday!!!

Posted by: Mustang5L5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerxeese

Man, I am never going to live that down.....

Just remind Ed about the day he took a nap at 75MPH

Posted by: Xerxeese

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang5L5

Just remind Ed about the day he took a nap at 75MPH

I dont remember the details on that one.. fill me in !

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerxeese

I dont remember the details on that one.. fill me in !

I fell asleep at 3:30am and we ended up in a ditch. Then drove home on two flats. Mike's just mad because I still have the "picture" of his sister!!!

Posted by: Ozz

Don't worry, I fell asleep at the wheel once too. Thankfully it was my old Neon, and thankfully the car I hit received no damage and the lady shrugged it off. Phew.

Posted by: lxfiveo

Personally, I would love for all models to show at the True Street event so I could stop saying I have the fastest street stang in New England and have the chance to prove that I have the fastest street car in New England...period!

Posted by: MCRPARTS

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorchRedSVT

NOPI was in fact cancelled, not just for NED though but a few events all over the country. As Dana mentioned....attendance is just down all around.

Tony, I'd be more than happy to hang out with you for a while on Saturday and or Sunday!!!

Cool, Can't wait.Crossing fingers for NO RAIN! Frickin summer is sucking

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

ok guys, here is the flier that was sent out and posted, you can clearly see right in the middle where it says battle of the brands. No mention of the car show however.

If it brings more fast cars to NED at fun ford I am all for it.

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by lxfiveo

Personally, I would love for all models to show at the True Street event so I could stop saying I have the fastest street stang in New England and have the chance to prove that I have the fastest street car in New England...period!

Not so fast, I hear Scarecrow might be running True Street

Posted by: PULNGZ

Let see here......

If I were to break down the words here for this event title:

FUN FORD WEEKEND

**I just don't get the all make thing. Last I checked there are plenty of Fords, Mustangs etc. in New England. Also plenty of nights & weekend for "ALL MAKES" to run & compete without FFW.

Business or not.........Sounds like time for "AN EVENT NAME CHANGE" if this is the case. Furthermore: The MUSTANG presence is at an all time high, I mean come on - in a down economic time.........these Mustangs make us the happiest, and provide some type of POSITIVE anything to us!!!!

If a FORD / MUSTANG rally was so desperately needed........MM&FF, Dragways, Etc.......SHOULD BE REACHING OUT TO IT'S TARGET AUDIENCE. This day and age of communication it's so easy......contact the CLUBS, Forms, Etc....
**Not trying to solve World Hunger Here**

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

the reality is attendance is down across the board. Look at any FFW related thread on any message board and you'll be faced with the reality.

Lets just analyze fun ford at NED over the last two or three years...when is the last time a Pro 5.0 racers showed up? There haven't been any in atleast two or three years. When I first started to attend the Fun ford event in 03 the vendor alley was huge and full of many different companies...now its a very small selection.

Less racers are showing up, less show cars are attending, the event's just simply aren't as big as they used to be. There are a number of factors at play here.

I'd love to see a huge turn around, maybe you are right and some major marketing needs to be done....but Fun Ford is an independent organization seperate from NED.

All I know is that this group of people will be there to support the cuase and I for one am counting the days down!!

Posted by: badass98svt

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorchRedSVT

Lets just analyze fun ford at NED over the last two or three years...when is the last time a Pro 5.0 racers showed up? There haven't been any in atleast two or three years. !!

I dunno about all that. There were 3 0r 4 the year before last. And last year there was 1 or 2.
Though, i agree the racing part of FFW has slowly diminished over the past few years.

You don't remeber the UPR pro 5.0 car putting it on the bumper every run?

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

One of the major problems with the future of this hobby is the affordablility of a decent car.
When I was 16 you could get a nice used 5.0 for 2-3000 and have a grand old time. Kids can't do that anymore.
While inflation and wage increases should be relevant to the times, the price of a good Stang is so far out of reach for the average kid working after school for 8-10.00 an hour that they'd rather spend 3000 on a civic.
The other thing killing this hobby is the technology. During the flourishing days of the 5.0 you could get a decent tool set from Sears and do 80% of the work yourself. Today, a kid has to work 2 weeks just to pay the 90.00 diagnostic fee if he gets a "check engine" light.
Yet another thing that sours some people on these events, and this has been on every message board on the planet (not just Stangs) is the cost to be competitive.
Showing up to the track with 10 of your friends and actually seeing who the best driver is used to be a blast, and that's when these events were jam packed. Today an average street car doesn't stand a chance against someone with mediocre driving skills but great check writing skills.

I think that as a community, the Mustang owners need to really help promote the hobby to the younger generation. This isn't easy considering a decent used Stang will run 7-8000 dollars and usually have some miles on the clock that will evntually require just routine maintenance which could be costly to a kid.
Take for example the current FOX body craze. In the 90's, you could find an LX 5.0 notchback for 3-4000 all day long. Now for 4,000 your lucky to find one with under 100,000 miles and in need of some TLC. And this is on cars pushing almost 20yrs of age and they sold for 10,000 or so BRAND NEW.
By opening up FFW to all makes and models, they are just basically saying that they don't care that this segment is dying as long as they make money. But eventually, there will be so little interest that the real meaning of FUN Ford Weekend will be gone and it's just going to turn into a giant Test-N-Tune and no one is going to want to shell out that kind of money for that.
We pay good money to hang out with our friends and people with similar interests than us. They should be promoting the events, offering incentives to vendors, and actively seeking feedback from those who attend the events so that they can change with the times. Maybe they need to add a few classes?? Maybe they need to reach out to some of the clubs like NHMC, CMDR, LMMC, and give the people in these clubs a reason to push there members to attend.
Only time will tell, but I still kinda think they're throwing in the towel, instead of injecting some nitrous into the event!!

Posted by: badass98svt

Very well said, ED

Did I just say that?

Posted by: chachee52

I think that someone took over Ed's computer.
But Good thing for Ed is that now he can bring his Grand Prix!!

Posted by: EastCoast5.0

Wow, good read Ed.

Posted by: PULNGZ

Quote:

One of the major problems with the future of this hobby is the affordablility of a decent car.
When I was 16 you could get a nice used 5.0 for 2-3000 and have a grand old time. Kids can't do that anymore.
While inflation and wage increases should be relevant to the times, the price of a good Stang is so far out of reach for the average kid working after school for 8-10.00 an hour that they'd rather spend 3000 on a civic.
The other thing killing this hobby is the technology. During the flourishing days of the 5.0 you could get a decent tool set from Sears and do 80% of the work yourself. Today, a kid has to work 2 weeks just to pay the 90.00 diagnostic fee if he gets a "check engine" light.
Yet another thing that sours some people on these events, and this has been on every message board on the planet (not just Stangs) is the cost to be competitive.
Showing up to the track with 10 of your friends and actually seeing who the best driver is used to be a blast, and that's when these events were jam packed. Today an average street car doesn't stand a chance against someone with mediocre driving skills but great check writing skills.

I think that as a community, the Mustang owners need to really help promote the hobby to the younger generation. This isn't easy considering a decent used Stang will run 7-8000 dollars and usually have some miles on the clock that will evntually require just routine maintenance which could be costly to a kid.
Take for example the current FOX body craze. In the 90's, you could find an LX 5.0 notchback for 3-4000 all day long. Now for 4,000 your lucky to find one with under 100,000 miles and in need of some TLC. And this is on cars pushing almost 20yrs of age and they sold for 10,000 or so BRAND NEW.
By opening up FFW to all makes and models, they are just basically saying that they don't care that this segment is dying as long as they make money. But eventually, there will be so little interest that the real meaning of FUN Ford Weekend will be gone and it's just going to turn into a giant Test-N-Tune and no one is going to want to shell out that kind of money for that.
We pay good money to hang out with our friends and people with similar interests than us. They should be promoting the events, offering incentives to vendors, and actively seeking feedback from those who attend the events so that they can change with the times. Maybe they need to add a few classes?? Maybe they need to reach out to some of the clubs like NHMC, CMDR, LMMC, and give the people in these clubs a reason to push there members to attend.
Only time will tell, but I still kinda think they're throwing in the towel, instead of injecting some nitrous into the event!!

Ed......VERY, VERY Well Said. I'm proud of you!! I believe Ed is spot on.

People don't need to be afraid to take a side, there is way to much "Let's play NEUTRAL" these days.....with in-decission.

PS: Fox'es are special: As they are almost the last frontier for self perfomed mods, etc!!

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

yeah, definitly some good points Ed

you should post this up on the FFW forums and see what kinda reaction you get.

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

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Originally Posted by badass98svt

two years ago FFW was condensed into a single day cuase of the weather...none of the pro 5.0 guys came. And last year none were there either...there was a ton of outlaw and renegade cars though.

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by PULNGZ

PS: Fox'es are special: As they are almost the last frontier for self perfomed mods, etc!!

That's my point exactly!! It was almost as much fun to hang out and wrench with your buddies than it was to race. And if one guy broke, then he bought the pizza (or turkey sandwiches for some of you) when we all came over to help put in a clutch or whatever.
I also can't see too many kids today looking forward to scouring through Hollands (Used Auto Parts in Billerica)on a Saturday!!! That was one of the best places to learn because if you couldn't figure out how something came off your car you could go to Hollands and break 2-3 of them trying to figure it out!!

Posted by: Jarhead46

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Originally Posted by LILBLKSNAKE

Did Ed just say something intelligent and meaningful in this forum, what is the world coming to

Posted by: Xerxeese

holy crap, Ed !

Well said.

But what I am noticing, is everyone talking about Mustangs like they are the only ford at the event. My first FFW was spent with me driving my 99 Mercury Cougar in and showing it. It was mercury's "sport compact" although it wasnt marketed as such. It was what I could afford, and had no problems spanking a civic.
The Club I was with at the time showed as a club, and we got some attention for being "different"
My best 1/4 mile with it was 15.619. Stock with just an exhaust and a CAI. not too shabby for a 2.5L v6.
The issue is definitely competing with the big wallets. Now, if they made classes for smaller engined FORD vehicles, they might stir up some more attendance and racing. but lets face it, the kid with the focus doesnt stand a chance against the big engine cars, so why would he bother ? BUT you give him his own 4 banger class and thats tempting. Same goes for us 6ers. Yeah, I am building mine, but I have no belief that I will someday beat Steve. But I will hold my own against any other V6 out there.

Make some classes that the novice, or budget minded driver can be competitive in. Market that. and perhaps maybe reduce the cost of attendance and you could have a full field all over again..

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

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Originally Posted by Xerxeese

Make some classes that the novice, or budget minded driver can be competitive in. Market that. and perhaps maybe reduce the cost of attendance and you could have a full field all over again..

That is the key!! And as the entry level/novice class progresses they will turn into the next generation of competitors.

Imagine if someone actually put some type of program for the 16yr old+ kids with 4-bangers and 6 cyl's?? It's probably cheaper to get an SN95 V6 than some of those JR Dragsters!!
Promote then program, teach the kids how to safely run on the track, and watch them grow. Eventually they will finish school, get jobs, and be able to afford an upgrade.
The people at FFW need to look away from there wallets and get some real enthusiasts running the show. There are millions of kids out there, sitting home playing video games, just waiting for something better to do!!!

Posted by: TorchRedSVT

uhhh they have a class for 4cyl's..its called Focus frenzy. It's always full of 15 second cars

Posted by: bullitt5177

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Originally Posted by TorchRedSVT

uhhh they have a class for 4cyl's..its called Focus frenzy. It's always full of 15 second cars

Yep, it's pretty boring to watch. Because as sad as it is, it's damn hard to make a fast Focus.

Posted by: serviceman1

Quote:

Originally Posted by LILBLKSNAKE

I agree with all of that it is to bad for the younger generation. I got my son a 90 fox for 4000.00 and it has been one problem after another. He loves to race but is getting sick of everyday repairs, not to mention the very shollow pockets. Remember when 4000 got you an awsome ride. If you want american muscle you need to spend 8000 - 10,0000. SAD

Posted by: Xerxeese

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorchRedSVT

uhhh they have a class for 4cyl's..its called Focus frenzy. It's always full of 15 second cars

I didnt know that.

Posted by: pony281

plus they have , quick ford , and fast ford and other bracket classes , plus the true street class . there is plenty of beginner and non expensive classes

Posted by: Xerxeese

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Originally Posted by pony281

plus they have , quick ford , and fast ford and other bracket classes , plus the true street class . there is plenty of beginner and non expensive classes

But they dont seem to market them as beginner class.

As for focus frenzy, by the name, I would THINK it was Focus Only. What about the 4 cyl foxes ? Those could be pretty quick when modded right.

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorchRedSVT

uhhh they have a class for 4cyl's..its called Focus frenzy. It's always full of 15 second cars

That's still a newer car that kids probably couldn't afford.

Posted by: lxfiveo

Quote:

Originally Posted by pony281

plus they have , quick ford , and fast ford and other bracket classes , plus the true street class . there is plenty of beginner and non expensive classes

Exactly! True Street is a run what you brung, but since there is no reaction time factored in, it is a good place for a beginner to have fun. If you have a slower car, run the brackets...that is a dial-in, so it doesn't matter if you have an 18 second ride!!! If you can consistently run between 18.00 and 18.05, you will mop up!! That takes lots of practice, but you can be a beast at the track with a slow car! Hell, I have mucho respect for some of those bracket killer guys who often have cars 4-5 seconds slower than mine....it is MUCH harder to do!

The biggest thing to me is that the track is intimidating as hell to a newbie and they do not do a great job making anyone at ease....they expect you to know this stuff cold by the time you get there. If you are new at it, I suggest you take the opportunity to run your car at least one out of the next three Street Nights prior to FFW to get a taste of it.

Posted by: Orange SS

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Originally Posted by LILBLKSNAKE

WOW Ed... I think you missed your calling. You should be the marketing person for FFW. You just sound so passionate about it.

Posted by: PULNGZ

Will we seeing the "Orange SS" and/or it's owners/kids at this years FFW?

Posted by: Orange SS

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Originally Posted by PULNGZ

Will we seeing the "Orange SS" and/or it's owners/kids at this years FFW?

Thanks for asking, but no, Chris will be in NJ that weekend. We can't even get a babysitter, so that we can celebrate our 10th anniversary in a couple weeks.

Sorry for the rant.

Posted by: LILBLKSNAKE

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Originally Posted by Orange SS

We can't even get a babysitter, so that we can celebrate our 10th anniversary in a couple weeks.

Drop them off at Home Depot cruise night, then come back and get them later. They can have a fun filled evening of cleaning my COBRA!! Plus there's a 99 there for your anniversary dinner, what's more romantic than the 99??

Posted by: BADASS03SVT

should be there all weekend a slong as the cars back together. anyone getting a room and want to split costs? as of now im sleeping in the truck!!

Posted by: foxbod44

I'll be there on saturday at the very least, hopefully sunday too.

Posted by: badass98svt

I'm planning on going on Sunday, as long as the weather looks good.

What time is everyone meeting at the Rock?
We taking highways or 111?

Posted by: Mustang5L5

Is there a saturday rock?

Posted by: only90s

Someone should probably start a Sat Cruise thread and then a Sun Cruise thread...

I plan on taking my Fox on Sunday and will cruise up from the Rock, if we go 111 to 125...

Sat probably leave the Fox at home, but I will figure it out later this week...